tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7701481815400252255.post3668786470502760241..comments2024-03-19T21:11:15.854+06:00Comments on The Skeptic Mind: Sunset, sunrise & the muddy poolSkeptic Mindhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03377806985317206338noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7701481815400252255.post-9182378413097159782014-02-14T14:26:30.781+06:002014-02-14T14:26:30.781+06:00Why people called zulkernain a person with two hor...Why people called zulkernain a person with two horns.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07081792692502316125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7701481815400252255.post-5588776757239448782014-02-14T14:24:20.365+06:002014-02-14T14:24:20.365+06:00Why people called zulkernain a person with two hor...Why people called zulkernain a person with two horns.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07081792692502316125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7701481815400252255.post-77230623427895223432012-12-16T03:21:25.359+06:002012-12-16T03:21:25.359+06:00Oh you people with seals on your hearts, especiall...Oh you people with seals on your hearts, especially the apostate who commented confirming his shameful act in this thread, read the holy Qur'an and ponder on its timeless beauty, revealed to our beloved Prophet (pbuh) who was illiterate btw! Open your hearts and free yourselves from your ignorance and your depressing wandering in falsehood - deep down when you are alone you know your soul yearns for the truth and is unhappy in its present state. The answer to your question, a question which is twisted through Satan's mischief, is as follows: Some Christian missionaries claim that the Quran teaches Muslims that the sun sets in a murky pool. I wonder how people who don't even understand the arabic language and its rules come up with such conclusions, even the earliest muslims did not come up with such conclusions.<br /><br />18:86. Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near ithefound a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."<br /><br />A common Christian objection to the verse is by claiming it to be a “scientific contradiction”,they reason: If the presence of scientific facts can prove the Qur’an’s divine origins, the presence of scientific falsehood can disprove divine origins. For example, Sura’ 18:86 :<br /><br />This is a false claim, the Quran does not teach such inaccuracy.<br /><br />Critics of this verse should be aware that the Qur’an is not descriptive prose, and the words of the Qur’an is of high poetical eloquence, something which the Bible is not able to claim. Since the beauty of the Qur’an is in its poetical nature, therefore it is only natural that the Qur’an uses emphatic expressions to describe something like a “sunset”. Keep in mind that the Qur’an is in poetical prose and is meant to be a challenge to the pagan Arabs in Mecca who prided themselvesaswriters of good poetry. Those neophytes who like to use this verse as a stick to beat Islam with should try to study the Arabian Literature and History of that period before coming up with silly conclusions.<br /><br />“Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: “O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.”<br /><br />This English translation was taken from A. Yusuf Ali. Let us analyse the verse part by part.<br /><br />“Until, when he reached the setting of the sun…”: The translation of this part of the verse does not say that Zul-Qarnain reached the place where the sun sets LITERALLY, rather it means here that Zul-Qarnain was facing the direction in which the sun is setting. The “setting of the sun,” is an Arabic idiom meaning ‘the western-most point’ of his expedition. However, in general, idioms should not be literally translated.<br /><br />“…he found it set in a spring of murky water”: The Qur’an is obviously describing what Dhul-Qarnain saw. What Dhul-Qarnain saw was the image of the sun setting in a dark body of water. Since the Qur’an is clearly describing this from Dhul-Qarnain’sdirect point of view (the Qur’an is quite explicit here in doing that), there is in fact no problem with the description of what Dhul-Qarnain saw. Of course the Critic is right when he says that “the sun does not set in a spring of murky water”, but try standing at a beach during the time when the sun is about to set and the Critic would be able to see the sun “entering” the sea far in the horizon. This therefore gives us the conclusion that Dhul-Qarnain was somewhere west and by a large body of water, possibly the sea.<br /><br />Thus, it is clear to us that the above-mentioned verse is only considered “unscientific” if we would also consider that similar emphatically-used phrases suchas“Japan, the land of the rising sun” or “Sabah, the land beneath the wind” to be “uAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7701481815400252255.post-59474478546397597072012-06-24T15:49:12.365+06:002012-06-24T15:49:12.365+06:00Good, succinct article. The links at the bottom ha...Good, succinct article. The links at the bottom have excellent and rare details.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7701481815400252255.post-70139718268896693262012-06-22T01:17:23.604+06:002012-06-22T01:17:23.604+06:00Thanks for the article it will be very helpful for...Thanks for the article it will be very helpful for a coming debate.<br />- Opus ObscureAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7701481815400252255.post-9944431453976442772012-03-25T23:00:28.502+06:002012-03-25T23:00:28.502+06:00I left islam when I was 40 yrs old . Only when I d...I left islam when I was 40 yrs old . Only when I decied to interept the quran to its actual meaning specially early sources I found that we have been brainwashed ,its only take me 24 hrs to abandon relegions and pradaise that we been dreaming off for 40 yers, but I feel much better nowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com